VideoRedo crashes instantly with VOB!

[Anonymous]

While I had the trial version, everything seemed fine. Today, I tried to work with some vob files on my hard drive and with my full and paid for version. As soon as, I chose the vob, the program opened only for a split second and then it completey terminated itself as if it was never open. I checked the log file, the only thing it says is that VideoRedo opened and that it is registered to me!

Then I made some new mpeg files and the problems persists. I cannot use the program period. I also uninstalled and reinstalled the program to no avail.

I can open and edit the file with mpegvcr (that I switched from) :(

Please someone advise,

[Anonymous]

Well, I could not make the original program work so I downloaded the new beta version and now I back in business. It fixed it. I really don't know what happened here. :D

[DanR]

There were quite a few changes in the latest betas that allow VideoReDo to handle additional types of MPEG stream that previously caused it problems. I'm pleased that the new beta resolved your issue. Rest assured that if you try to edit a stream that causes problems with VideoReDo I'll make it a top priority to get it fixed.

[Anonymous]

Hi,

I got the same symptom, but it's only when I open a vob that has multiple audio streams (DD2.0 and DD5.1, to be exact), VRD closes itself without any warning or error message. I'm on the trial version. Does/will VRD support vob with multiple audio streams?

lctk_71

[Anonymous]

I forgot to mention I did not opened the vob files directly from DVD, they are already on my HDD.

lctk_71

[DanR]

Some hints / pointers for you:

1) Download the latest beta from: ftp://videoredo:videoredo@ftp.drdsystems.com/Betas/ This will eliminate the problems associated with multiple audio streams.

2) VideoReDo currently latches on to the first audio stream it finds. You can use a product like DVD Decryptor, SmartRip or DVDShrink, etc. to choose the audio stream.

3) A future release will have much better support for DVD input. You'll be able to open the IFO file, select which titles / chapters you want to edit and which audio streams to include.

4) The other issue with VOB files is that they may contain multiple titles and/or chapters stored in a non-linear fashion. Its the IFO files that pieces together segments of the VOB files into a coherent, linear program. Until we process the IFO files (see #3 above), you really should extract by title if possible. More information is available on our web site: http://www.drdsystems.com/VideoReDo/ExtractStreamsFromDVD.htm

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your quick response. Sorry I didn't make it clear in my previous posts: each vob is a single music video clip, extracted from dvd, and the source dvd is not with me. Therefore, I can only try the 1st hint, as the rest are n/a.

ng_ht

[Coruscant]

Hello,

I have encountered this same problem but I have the most recent trial version.

I installed it on my previous Windows XP SP2 setup and the program would crash immediately after the video first appeared. It worked fine for MPG files but not for VOB files whether these were on a DVD, a DVD-R/W, or my hard drive.

I downloaded another copy of VideoReDo and installed it. Same problem.

I reformatted my system and rebuilt it with only Windows XP SP2, WinDVD 4, and nForce 5.10 system drivers. Same problem.

The error message and signature are as follows:

VideoRedo.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.
AppName: videoredo.exe
AppVer: 1.6.2.284
ModName: videoredo.exe
ModVer: 1.6.2.284
Offset: 0005ed5b

Here is my computer setup:

Abit NF2 2.0 (with latest NVIDIA drivers)
Athlon XP 2600+
Kingston 1GB PC2700
Radeon 8500LE (with either MS or lastest ATI drivers)
Sound Blaster Audigy (with latest drivers)
Maxtor 120 GB

Before I can even consider buying this program, I have to be able to resolve this problem. Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

[Peter]

I'll try and answer this ;)

As Dan's post above states:

Some hints / pointers for you:

1) Download the latest beta from: ftp://videoredo:videoredo@ftp.drdsystems.com/Betas/ This will eliminate the problems associated with multiple audio streams.

2) VideoReDo currently latches on to the first audio stream it finds. You can use a product like DVD Decryptor, SmartRip or DVDShrink, etc. to choose the audio stream.

3) A future release will have much better support for DVD input. You'll be able to open the IFO file, select which titles / chapters you want to edit and which audio streams to include.

4) The other issue with VOB files is that they may contain multiple titles and/or chapters stored in a non-linear fashion. Its the IFO files that pieces together segments of the VOB files into a coherent, linear program. Until we process the IFO files (see #3 above), you really should extract by title if possible. More information is available on our web site: http://www.drdsystems.com/VideoReDo/ExtractStreamsFromDVD.htm

If you look at item's 3 & 4, you'll see that he is working toward better support of VOB files. What you have to understand is the product is an MPEG editor, and VOB's are not MPEG's.

As this product evolves, you will see a continued effort to enhance this program to handle much more than it was originally intended.

We are seeing some great progress in this program from it's infancy a year or so ago, so be sure to look for more file support and new features.
I think that commercial detection is just around the corner!

Try doing as #4 suggests until there is better handling of VOB file.

[DanR]

I have encountered this same problem but I have the most recent trial version.
You are not running the current beta version which has additional fixes for this problem. Please download it from the link below and let us know how it performs. The current beta location is: ftp://beta:beta@videoredo.net Last beta build is #302.

[Anonymous]

I have encountered this same problem but I have the most recent trial version.
You are not running the current beta version which has additional fixes for this problem. Please download it from the link below and let us know how it performs. The current beta location is: ftp://beta:beta@videoredo.net Last beta build is #302.

Thank you for the advice. It seems to have gotten me past that hurdle only to get tripped up by another. Following the guide, I used DVD Decrypter's IFO mode to extract the IFOs and VOBs. However, I didn't notice at first that IFO mode doesn't extract the initial VIDEO_TS files.

What I did notice was that the extracted VOBs couldn't play properly in either PowerDVD, WinDVD, or VideoRedo. A 90-minute movie wouldn't be listed as such, instead having a posted run time that wouldn't exceed 3 minutes. It would begin playing normally enough but after about 40 seconds, it would suddenly stutter and begin playing at about 40X normal speed but with the timer counting off the seconds in real time.

I looked feverishly for a cause. Womble MPEG-VCR has no problem with playing the ripped files at the proper rate nor with editing and saving them. PowerDVD can play the original files on DVD-R with no issues as can my four-year-old DVD player. Subsituting a commercial DVD for my homemade DVD-R yields no issues after the ripping process. Weirder still, files ripped from the DVD-R show no issues after being reauthored to another DVD-R.

I thought perhaps using FILE mode in DVD Decrypter might solve the problem but this has no effect. Nor does the computer used seem to matter. The first is an Athlon using an nForce2 motherboard and Windows XP. The other is an Athlon using a VIA motherboard and Windows 2K.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[Coruscant]

I just tried another rip and noticed something odd. The point of failure seems to occur at the end of the first Cell (or the beginning of the second) in Chapter 1. At that point, the video accelerates while the sound from the last 2-3 seconds is looped over and over until the video ends.

I have two examples. The very first cell in the DVD on computer 1 lasts 46 seconds and that is where things fail. In computer 2, the very first cell lasts 32 seconds and that is where its problem begins.

[DanR]

Did you run Tools>QuickStream fix against your VOBs?

[Coruscant]

I hadn't but it seems to have done the job of making my VOBs (now MPGs) play at normal speed throughout. However, now there is the issue of resync frames being removed.

In my case, VideoRedo is dropping many more video than audio frames. Normally, the is a small but distracting jump in the video every 30 seconds or so. When I learned how to disable frame dropping and expand the video buffer, I found that 75 minutes into a 90 minute movie, the audio was ahead of the video by about 15 seconds. That explained the large number of video frames being dropped.

I'd read elsewhere in the forum that a PVR source (in my case a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8000) could be responsible. However, I found that shows recorded directly to my DVD recorder (no PVR hooked up between) also had a much larger number of video than audio frames deleted.

* Video resync frames removed: 262
* Audio resync frames removed: 37

Thanks for the help.

[DanR]

We would like to investigate your frame dropping a little bit more. If you can, enable diagnostics on the Tools>Options>Advanced Stream. Edit one of the files that creates a lot of frame drops, and then email us the VideoReDo.log file, as an attachment.

Thanks.

[Coruscant]

I found that if I demuxed the extracted VOB and then remuxed it, there were no resync issues (confirmed by QuickStream) and the now slightly smaller file demonstrated the correct run length. Unfortunately, while freeware demultiplexers are common enough, I couldn't find a freeware multiplexer that could handle AC-3.

[DanR]

Check out the mplex multiplexor. There's a copy of it on our FTP site: ftp://upload:upload@videoredo.net