Feedback: Using VideoReDo Edited MPEGs with DVD-Lab

[acanthis]

Just completed a test using DVD Lab 1.4 beta 2 to create a DVD from a 50 minute MPEG edited with VideoReDo 1.5.0.212

The source was captured with a Hauppauge WinTV PVR USB2 using the DVD Long Play Profile. A total of four segments, around 12 minutes, were cut from the original 62 minute captured file using VideoReDo. Interestingly, I found that I was able to create a DVD that played perfectly without the need to use the Relaxed Multiplexer as mentioned in the program notes. Whether this is due to changes in the latest version of DVD Lab or just because the Hauppauge generates "good" MPEG2 files I can't say.

Anyway, 100% success on that test - which may be useful info for anyone else considering the same combination.

[DanR]

I found that I was able to create a DVD that played perfectly without the need to use the Relaxed Multiplexer DVDLab is an interesting situation. When I initially tested DVDLab, I had to use the alternative multiplexor to achieve perfect sync. Didn't spend much time with the program personally, as I found the learning curve a bit steep compared to the more wizard authoring programs like Movie Factory. Just too busy at the time getting VideoReDo ready for release. Some other people did the followup testing and confirmed that alternative worked well, so that's what we posted on the website.

However, my wife asked me to create some DVD and I couldn't get the kind of look we wanted in Movie Factory so I spent the hour learning DVDLab. I can now say its my favorite authoring program. :!:

I've found that I no longer need to use the relaxed multiplexor either and will be changing the release notes for VideoReDo.

There's a new beta build available 213, that as a DVDLab user you might find useful. You can save your VideoReDo edits as elem. streams so that DVDLab doesn't have to demux. Seems to work well so far, but I would appreciate some more testing. Also, check out the new "Options" button on the filesave dialog. I think you'll appreciate the new feature. :)

[bitter_old_man]

You can save your VideoReDo edits as elem. streams
Thank you! I'll be testing this tomorrow.

Barry

[acanthis]

I had a quick chance to test the new Options dialogue when saving video and it's doing exactly what I wanted. It came at a very good time, as I'd just sat down to tidy up a widescreen movie I'd captured. The 16:9 switch alone is enough to make VideoReDo my favoured MPEG2 editor over Womble's MPEGVCR.

I'll check out the ability to save as elementary streams today. That's definitely a time saving step for DVD Lab users, though I probably won't make heavy use of it. Mostly, the material I capture with the PVR I watch using a Hauppauge MediaMVP (a network-attached media player that plays back MPEG1/2, MP3, JPEG, GIF direct to the TV. So far, the MVP has had no problems playing back any of the material that I've edited with VideoReDo.

[DanR]

The 16:9 switch alone is enough to make VideoReDo my favoured MPEG2 editor over Womble's MPEGVCR. :D

Glad to be of help.

[Anonymous]

The 16:9 switch alone is enough to make VideoReDo my favoured MPEG2 editor over Womble's MPEGVCR.

Where's this 16:9 switch? I can't seem to find it.

I'm using 213.

[DanR]

Where's this 16:9 switch? I can't seem to find itWhen you do a filesave, there will be an option button in the lower right corner of the file save dialog. Click on that.

[Anonymous]

When you do a filesave, there will be an option button in the lower right corner of the file save dialog. Click on that.

Got it.

Thanks for the speedy reply.

[bitter_old_man]

Dan,

I've found some problems with the elementary streams.

MyDVD won't accept the mpv file at all. Adobe Encore (I'm using the trial, but other than expiring after 30 days it has no restrictions) wants to reencode the video. With both of these apps if I manually demux the MPEG file from VideoReDo, everything is OK. MyDVD imports the file with no problems and Encore doesn't reencode the video.

Barry

[ground0]

[quote]There's a new beta build available 213, that as a DVDLab user you might find useful. You can save your VideoReDo edits as elem. streams so that DVDLab doesn't have to demux. Seems to work well so far, but I would appreciate some more testing. Also, check out the new "Options" button on the filesave dialog. I think you'll appreciate the new feature. :)

Hi Dan, I'm a new user and would like to find out how to get the beta 213. I for one would like to eliminate the additional step of de-muxing the file before authoring it. The reason why I de-mux it is I convert the audio to AC3. I realize that some software DVD players don't play the mpeg audio, ex. NVDVD, and even ifoedit. Another reason is for most compatibility to Set-top DVD Players.

Thanks,

[DanR]

I'm a new user and would like to find out how to get the beta 213 You'll find it here.

Here's a question for you: What do you use to convert your MPEG audio to AC3?[/quote]

[ground0]

Here's a question for you: What do you use to convert your MPEG audio to AC3?

Dan, I'm using the AC3 converter from Sonic Scenarist.

[ground0]

You'll find it here.

Dan, I've looked all over and can't find a way to get it. Do I need to be a beta tester to get it? The build 213, that is.

Thanks,

[DanR]

Oops, the link didn't paste in the reply, sorry. Its not on the website, but rather the FTP site. Here's the link: ftp://videoredo:videoredo@ftp.drdsystems.com/Betas/

[ground0]

Just finished using build 213 and it really works as it meant to be. It eliminated the extra step of de-muxing the source files before authoring. I just finished 2 DVD's with 6 (30) mins. episode per disc.

FYI, for whoever is interested. These are the steps I make from capturing to authoring.
1) Captured all shows using Beyond TV, via WinTV PVR-350 (DVD-Hi res setting).
2) Edit out commercials using VideoRedo (build 213) and saving as Elem. Streams.
3) Convert all mpa's to ac3's via AC3 converter from Sonic.
4) Author the DVD using TmpgEnc DVD Author.
Note: You won't hear the AC3 audio when playing through the TmpgEnc DVD Author, but it will create the DVD with Dolby Digital audio.

I hope in the near future, VideoRedo will support AC3.

Thanks again Dan. Nothing can beat a support that comes from Main MAN....

[ground0]

Dan,

Just in case nobody has notice this. When you switch the Editing Mode, the Button doesn't change from "Cut-to-Add Selection" or vice versa until you re-start the VRD application.

[phd]

I hope in the near future, VideoRedo will support AC3.

ground0,

Videoredo does support AC3. I edit my home recorded DVDs from the Philips recorder which has AC3 audio. GIve it a try.

[DanR]

Just in case nobody has notice this. When you switch the Editing Mode, the Button doesn't change from "Cut-to-Add Selection" or vice versa until you re-start the VRD application.Oops, I'll get that fixed. It should change when you open the next file.

[ground0]

Videoredo does support AC3. I edit my home recorded DVDs from the Philips recorder which has AC3 audio. GIve it a try.

phd,

I'm sorry. I wasn't clear about my statement. I meant to say " I hope VRD would be able to trancode an mpeg audio to Dolby Digital in the near future".

Thanks for the info anyway. I'll keep it in mind. I have a Panasonic DMR-HS2 which record in vro file. It also record in Dolby Digital audio. I use VobEdit to demux the stream before authoring it. I believe TmpgEnc DVD Author will take vro file but it takes a long time to process it. It's a lot faster when you work with Elem. stream.

Thanks again.

[DanR]

I hope VRD would be able to trancode an mpeg audio to Dolby Digital in the near future". Its not a technical issue, but a licensing one. I'm waiting for additional details from Dolby Labs on this issue.

[ground0]

Its not a technical issue, but a licensing one. I'm waiting for additional details from Dolby Labs on this issue.

Dan,
That's what I was thinking. When that happens, it will take a lot of time off my video editing process.

Thanks,

[phd]

ground0
I have a Panasonic DMR-HS2 which record in vro file.

Can DVD Decrypter or something else "rip" your VRO to a hard drive as a standard VOB?

If it can, you could then edit with VRD with AC3 audio and export as elementary streams for import into TMPGenc DVD Author.

Mine records more or less as standard VOBs so its very quick to separate as PGCs. Might be worth a try.

[rozemab]

I hope VRD would be able to trancode an mpeg audio to Dolby Digital in the near future". Its not a technical issue, but a licensing one. I'm waiting for additional details from Dolby Labs on this issue.

Dan,

As a reference point, DVD-lab users (including myself) use TMPGenc AC3 encoder for 2channel encoding. This is a validated Dolby Digital 2channel product that produces compliant AC3 streams. Oscar (dvd-lab designer) has a very good working relationship with TMPGenc and was able to incorporate an interface with DVD-lab. I'm sure Videoredo could do the same thing. Cost? For a 2channel encoder it is ~$30US!!!!

Note that you do not need DVDauthor to use it. The encoder does work as a standalone encoder.

If you compare this to other commerical encoders, this is a steal!!

Brian

[randytsuch]

I just saw this thread, and was reading it because I was having trouble creating the elementary streams with a file I made from videoredo.

For some reason, dvdlab would only make the video file, and not the audio file when I tried to make the elementary streams. dvdlab works fine with files not processed by videoredo, and with files I made with an older version of videoredo. But, I may have changed my videoredo setup, so I am not sure if its the version, or my setup.

So, I downloaded the latest beta, and was going to try using videoredo to make the streams, it would save a step and some time, which is very cool.

But, it looks like I can only save as an elementary stream if I am cutting stuff out. If want to join files, I do not see am option to save as an elementary stream. :(

So, for now, this feature does not help me, as the file I use in dvdlab is created by joining smaller files together with videoredo.

At least the file I just joined together in videoredo is getting split up correctly in dvdlab now.

Randy

[DanR]

If want to join files, I do not see am option to save as an elementary stream. Woops, that's a bug.:( The joiner output code is the same as the non-joiner output code, I just forgot to enable that option in the right place. I'll get it fixed and tested. Thanks.