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MattM1121
07-16-2008, 01:16 AM
Greetings,

First of all, I'm a new user of Video Redu and I really appreciate your product.

My current setup is to use VR to turn VOB into DVR-MS, and then watch it on my Xbox 360 thru WMC.

I've noticed if I turn tagging off that I get the thumbnail but no Video/Sound, and with tagging on I get no thumbnail but Video/Sound.

Any idea if we'll be getting the best of both worlds with DVR-MS files? :D

Thanks,

-Matt

DanR
07-16-2008, 01:42 PM
Any idea if we'll be getting the best of both worlds with DVR-MS files?
This is interesting since on my systems, if I turn off "tagging" I get both thumbnails and audio / video. The only thing I don't get with tagging off are NTSC closed captioning on my XBox 360 extender.

So, the question is what is different between our files and/or systems.

1) What OS and service pack are you running?
2) Open one of the file that displays the no video/sound, click on Tools>Show Program Info, and then using the copy button grab the information and paste it here.

Thanks.

MattM1121
07-17-2008, 08:18 PM
I'm using Vista 32 w/SP1

Here is one that is showing nothing but a black screen on my Xbox. It plays fine in Video Redu though:


File Name: D:\DVD\LOST_IN_SPACE\SEASON_1\1 - THE_RELUCTANT_STOWAWAY.dvr-ms
File Size: 1401314416 ( 1.31 GB )
Program Duration: 00:51:27.00
File Type: DVR-MS
Encoding: MPEG 2
Video stream Id: xE0
Encoding Dimensions: 720 x 480
Display Size: 720 x 480
Aspect Ratio: 4/3
Frame Rate: 29.97 FPS
Bit Rate: 9.800 Mbps
VBV_Buffer: 224 KB
Profile: Main/Main
Progressive: Prog or Int
Chroma: 4:2:0
Audio Format: 2.0
Audio Stream Id: Raw PS1
Audio Bit Rate: 192 Kbps
Audio Sampling Rate: 48000 Hz

Here is the orginal VOB info:

File Name: D:\DVD\LOST_IN_SPACE\SEASON_1\1 - THE_RELUCTANT_STOWAWAY.VOB
File Size: 1370411008 ( 1.28 GB )
Program Duration: 00:51:26.28
File Type: PS - MPEG2
Encoding: MPEG 2
Video stream Id: xE0
Encoding Dimensions: 720 x 480
Display Size: 720 x 480
Aspect Ratio: 4/3
Frame Rate: 29.97 FPS
Bit Rate: 9.800 Mbps
VBV_Buffer: 224 KB
Profile: Main/Main
Progressive: Prog or Int
Chroma: 4:2:0
Audio Format: 2.0
Audio Stream Id: AC3: 0 (x80)
Audio Bit Rate: 192 Kbps
Audio Sampling Rate: 48000 Hz


Here is a DRV-MS with tagging enbaled with works fine:


File Name: D:\DVD\WORLD_AT_WAR\2- DISTANT_WAR.dvr-ms
File Size: 1664831861 ( 1.55 GB )
Program Duration: 00:52:58.02
File Type: DVR-MS
Encoding: MPEG 2
Video stream Id: xE0
Encoding Dimensions: 720 x 480
Display Size: 720 x 480
Aspect Ratio: 4/3
Frame Rate: 29.97 FPS
Bit Rate: 8.000 Mbps
VBV_Buffer: 224 KB
Profile: Main/Main
Progressive: Prog or Int
Chroma: 4:2:0
Audio Format: Layer 2
Audio Stream Id: xC0
Audio Bit Rate: 320 Kbps
Audio Sampling Rate: 48000 Hz

Here is the orginal VOB info:

File Name: D:\DVD\WORLD_AT_WAR\2- DISTANT_WAR.VOB
File Size: 1580277760 ( 1.47 GB )
Program Duration: 00:51:35.00
File Type: PS - MPEG2
Encoding: MPEG 2
Video stream Id: xE0
Encoding Dimensions: 720 x 480
Display Size: 720 x 480
Aspect Ratio: 4/3
Frame Rate: 29.97 FPS
Bit Rate: 8.000 Mbps
VBV_Buffer: 224 KB
Profile: Main/Main
Progressive: Prog or Int
Chroma: 4:2:0
Audio Format: 2.0
Audio Stream Id: AC3: 0 (x80)
Audio Bit Rate: 224 Kbps
Audio Sampling Rate: 48000 Hz

Thanks for the quick reply too

DanR
07-17-2008, 10:07 PM
I noticed the audio switched from AC3 to MP2 in the tagged file, but not in the untagged file. Did you adjust the volume or specify MP2 audio encoding?

If you want to upload a short clip that illustrates the problem with the untagged file, we would be glad to take a look at it here. Don't forget to send an email to support after you upload.