Prblem with Pirates Of The Carribian

[Anonymous]

I just downloaded the trial version. I am running WinXP Pro on 2.8 Pentium 4 with 512 memory and lots of HD space. I ripped Pirates to the Hard Drive using DVD decryptor. VideoReDo crashes immediatly upon trying to load any of the vob's.

I have a Space 1999 DVD also ripped to my HD. I can load vob's 1, 2, 5 and 6 into VideoReDo and edit them. But when I try to load vob's 3 or 4 the program just hangs. I see disk activity about once a second but no matter how long I wait, the vob will not load.

[DanR]

The problem you are having is that that on those VOB files the timestamps are not continuous because those VOB files contain multiple titles. What I suggest is that you rip just the titles you are interested in to a seperate VOB/files. There's a writeup that might be helpful: www.drdsystems.com/VideoReDo/ExtractStreamsFromDVD.htm

Another similar option which has worked for others is to use DVD Shrink to extract just the desired title to its own DVD folder. The resulting VOB file should be editable.

You should also be aware that there is a sync problem when editing 3:2 pulldown material that usually accompanies DVD material. I'm very close to fixing it and should have a build (Build 220) posted later today that addresses it.

The ability to edit individual titles from a DVD is a highly requested feature and will be addressed in an upcoming release.

[bitter_old_man]

There is one small error on that page: "Note that only NTFS file partitions can hold files larger than 2 GB.". On a FAT16 partition the maximum file size is 2 GB; on a FAT32 partition it's 4 GB.

Barry

[DanR]

Thanks. I will make the correction.

[bitter_old_man]

You're welcome.

Barry

[Anonymous]

[quote="bitter_old_man"]There is one small error on that page: "Note that only NTFS file partitions can hold files larger than 2 GB.". On a FAT16 partition the maximum file size is 2 GB; on a FAT32 partition it's 4 GB.

I use w2k and I have 6 GB files, so I do not think 4 GB is the limit on NTFS

[bitter_old_man]

I use w2k and I have 6 GB files, so I do not think 4 GB is the limit on NTFS
I didn't say that there was a 4 GB limit on NTFS. I was pointing out that FAT32 has a 4 GB limit, not a 2 GB limit.

Barry

[Chas]

Just an update FYI

I tried your beta version 220 with Pirates and the vob would load but I got no sound. I could edit and the sound was there when I played the edited clips in PowerDVD. With the new release 221, I cannot load the vob's again. So, I used DVDFab first to extract the main movie and to strip out unwanted audio and subtitles. Then something strange. I can open vobs 1, 3 and 5 but not 2, 4 and 6. Only the even numbered ones will not load????????

I have tried DVDFab on a couple other ripped movies that would not load into VRD and they will load after extracting/stripping. Have not found another even/odd problem yet.

Why cannot we output as a vob anymore? I was planning on creating new vob's then using DVDFab to create the new TS file then burning using Nero. Not sure how to proceed from a .mpg 'program stream'. I thought .mpg would be simple video, not a program stream.

[DanR]

I tried your beta version 220 with Pirates and the vob would load but I got no sound.That's strange. What does Tools>Show Program Info show? Perhaps you could upload a short 10MB file trim to the FTP site?

I can open vobs 1, 3 and 5 but not 2, 4 and 6. Only the even numbered ones will not load???????? As you've found out, not all VOB files are editable with VideoReDo. This is because some VOB files are not meant to play sequentially and VideoReDo assumes that any file it opens contains sequential program material. For example, some VOBs might contain two or more extra titles each with their own set of timestamps. This confuses the current version of VideoReDo. The next release of VideoReDo will be much more intelligent about editing VOBs when you have the IFOs.


have tried DVDFab on a couple other ripped movies that would not load into VRD and they will load after extracting/stripping.I'm not familiar with DVDFab, but if it works great. Will have to look into it.

Why cannot we output as a vob anymore? From VideoReDo's perspective, there is no difference between VOB files and MPG files. VOB files are MPEG program streams with some additional info such as subtitles and navigation blocks. The VOB option on VideoReDo's output menu had some users thinking that VideoReDo files could create all the files necessary to burn a DVD such as IFO and VOBs(another requested feature). Therefore the VOB option was removed to prevent confusion. Simply save as an MPG file and you'll be fine.

[Chas]

First - could you maybe make a sticky post of the upload site? I had to search through other posts to find where I saw it before.

I have uploaded a folder called Pirates. The main folder has a 20meg cut from the origional vob 1 of Pirates Of The Carribean. It will not load into 221. I did not re-install 220 to verify the no-sound problem.

In sub-folder AfterFab, I gave you 4 cuts from the first 4 vob's created with DVDFab. All these clips will load into VRD. But the even numbered full clips will not????? When I try to load the full clips, There is a lot of disk activity. Like maybe VRD is stuck in an endless loop trying to create a working copy or work space.

I understand about vob's having extra crud in them. When I drag a vob directly into PowerDVD player, sometimes I see title sequences, extra features, etc, embedded in-between movie chapters. But DVDFab is supposed to cure that. It has a feature that will extract just the main movie sequence from the origional vob's and create new vob's. That is why the even numbered ones not loading is very strange. There should be no more out-of-sequence crud. I also stripped out all the extra laungage streams and all the subtitles when I created the new vob's using DVDFab.

I think that from what you said above, that I can just rename the outputted .mpg program stream to .vob and any program expecting a vob file will be happy.

[DanR]

First - could you maybe make a sticky post of the upload site? I had to search through other posts to find where I saw it before.Good idea, done.

I'll look at the files you've uploaded this weekend. Have you tried using DVDShrink to extract the titles? I hear that works pretty good, and you can disable the compression/transcode so the quality doesn't change.

[Chas]

I just downloaded DVD Shrink and backed-up the main movie with no recompression. The last vob size is exactly the same size as when I used DVDFab. So it looks like they both did the same thing. The problem was repeated - when I try to load the even numbered vob, VRD gets 'stuck' with a lot of disk activity. Hopefully the uploads will have enough info to help.

[DanR]

Thanks for tying. I'll try to get to it as soon as possible.

[DanR]

I have uploaded a folder called Pirates. The main folder has a 20meg cut from the origional vob 1 of Pirates Of The Carribean. It will not load into 221. I did not re-install 220 to verify the no-sound problemI've found out why this file didn't load. There are 6 sound tracks in this segment and that is confusing VideReDo. VideoReDo can only handle one sound track so I'll have to figure out how to make it behave better. I do know that in DVDShrink you can choose which sound tracks should be in the output file. Don't know if DVDFab has this.

Unfortuneatly, the 4 other files loaded and played just fine. That's indicative of the non-sequential timestamps. When you trimmed the files become sequential when non-sequential stuff was cut out. I'll need to think some more about how to detect this, we handle the DVD files properly inside VideoReDo.

[Chas]

I used Master Splitter to break up 2 of the vob's that will not load. All the pieces will load except for one in each vob. I sent the two pieces that have problems. The files have been uploaded to directory pirates2.
Vob 6 will load, after some extra disk activity, but freezes near the end on playback. Vob 4 will not load at all. Hope this helps. The origional vob 6 will not load at all when it is complete but the cut piece does. Interesting.

(Side note: Since master Splitter just cuts at a byte location, I am surprized the pieces load into VRD)

[Anonymous]

I'm having the same above described problems on Matrix Revolutions. Using DVD Shrink with NO compression to extract the 6 VOB's, I get all of them to read in but VOB #3. When I open that VOB, VideoReDo goes to 99% utilization forever with disk activity. I only selected one audio track and one subtitle (English AC3 and English respectively). I also tried compressing the movie down to 4.3GB size, but the 3rd VOB still doesn't open, even though it is a different part of the movie because of the shrinkage. Another interesting tidbit, but unrelated to VidoReDo: I split the VOB into component pieces in VobEdit. But IfoEdit couldn't join the pieces back together and complained about invalid stream. Hope this helps your debugging efforts.

[Anonymous]

I'm having the same problem as I posted above with the latest beta (.223) with Matrix Revolutions on VOB #3. When I open that VOB, VideoReDo goes to 99% utilization forever with disk activity. In addition, the other vobs now do not display correctly on the screen, but they do "play" and the correct sound comes through. The video itself looks like very bad TV receiption with diagonal lines of the actual screen colors smeared across the screen.

[DanR]

The problem with the smeared lines is due to a change put in to better handle another video card. If you can use the YUV mode, then you should be fine. Otherwise, you'll have to wait for the next for build 224, probably tomorrow for it to be fixed.

What graphics card do you use?

[Anonymous]

Mobility Radion 7500

[DanR]

Build 224, should be OK once again, without YUV, please verify when you can. Also, the on-screen display you wanted is there.

[bitter_old_man]

I've find a slight cosmetic problem with that on-screen display, but only when YUV acceleration is enabled. If you step through frame-by-frame, when you hit another I-frame, a little of a previous "B" is shown to the right of the "I". Since this goes away when YUV acceleration is off, it could be video card/driver specific.

Barry

[Anonymous]

224 corrects displaying all the VOBs on Matrix Revolutions except the 3rd. I'm having the same problem as I posted above with build 224 as I was with build 221 and 223 which is the 3rd VOB. When I open that VOB, VideoReDo still goes to 99% utilization. Any luck getting the uploaded Pirates of the Carribian files to work?

[DanR]

I've find a slight cosmetic problem with that on-screen display, but only when YUV acceleration is enabled. If you step through frame-by-frame, when you hit another I-frame, a little of a previous "B" is shown to the right of the "I". Since this goes away when YUV acceleration is off, it could be video card/driver specific.Just tested it, and I get the same effect on my system. Shouldn't be hard to fix.

Thanks.

[DanR]

224 corrects displaying all the VOBs on Matrix Revolutions except the 3rd. I'm having the same problem as I posted above with build 224 as I was with build 221 and 223 which is the 3rd VOB. When I open that VOB, VideoReDo still goes to 99% utilization. Any luck getting the uploaded Pirates of the Carribian files to work?Didn't address this issue specifically in 224, but its on the list to for 225 or 226.

[DanR]

Just wanted to let you know that I've found the problem with the Pirates clip you uploaded. I'll let you know when a build is available that you can test.

[Anonymous]

Does the new 225 build fix the VOB loading problem.

How do I get into the FTP site. I can't access it currently.

[DanR]

You should be able to click on this link: ftp://videoredo:videoredo@ftp.drdsystems.com/Betas/

[Anonymous]

does the new build (228) fix the problem is this topic

[Chas]

does the new build (228) fix the problem is this topic

Sorry but I do not have the Pirates video to test with anymore. I compressed it down using DVDShrink to fit on one DVDr. So testing those new vob's would not be a true test. BUT, I have loaded many vob's from commercial DVD's with the new beta releases and all work. So I would say the loading problem is fixed. One other problem, that I think is related, I have not noticed happening with the newest .228 - That is a 'hang' while using the slider controls. The slider would pause and disk activity goes crazy for up to 30 seconds. Then it recovers. I cannot say for certain this is now fixed but I have not seen it with .228 so far.

The newest .228 looks like a winner. Dan. will you be posting this as the new official release? Just wondering.

[DanR]

If 228 works well for a week, then I think we are getting close to a having a new release. Just have to bring the documentation up to date.