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    Red face Coolsat 7000 pvr

    Videoredo works great with coolsat 7000 .ts file. but need to find an easier way to write to dvd. using nero takes too long.

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    Default Coolsat FTA satellite receiver with hard drive

    Glad to hear the CS 7k PVR satellite receiver is so video-friendly.
    You might want to express yourself over on SatelliteGuys.US, a big satellite user's forum, in their FTA section.

    What are the specs of the shows you are transferring to DVD?
    Press Ctrl-L in Video ReDo (or it's somewhere on the menu, too), and give us that info.
    If the video format isn't DVD spec, the Nero Suite will want to re-encode it.
    That's what takes all the time.
    If the specifications of your chosen video are close, it's possible to use other tools to author your DVDs.
    (I can't help with burning time)

    Anyway, I burn tons of shows from a 544x480 source, and on my old system, it took about 20 minutes to do the authoring for about 4gb of output.
    On the new system, we got that down to 10 minutes.
    Just how long are you spending with Nero?
    Don't get me wrong, I burn with Nero, I just don't author with it.

    All these steps can be optimized by using the proper software:
    capture -
    edit - yea, VideoReDo is sweet!
    author - there are freebies discussed on this forum. I use DVD Labs, which is expensive.
    burn - as I said, I use Nero Burning ROM (only)
    Later this summer (?) VideoReDo guys are coming out with a package that handles most of those steps.

    A hot computer and TWO SATA drives (source on one; output on the other) goes a long way to squeezing out those minutes, too!
    Last edited by Anole; June 6th, 2007 at 05:11 PM.
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    This is the info I get when I play the vob file before I run Nero(Cntrl +L). It takes any where from 2 - 3 hours to burn a 2 hour DVD. I Converted the TS File from My Coolsat Harddrive with VideoReDo to VOB Files and then save it to my computer harddrive then I Ran Nero to Make the DVD with this file.

    File Name: C:\MOVIE FILES\VOB\Volver (Subtitled).vob
    File Size: 2009483268 ( 1.87 GB )
    Program Duration: 01:58:16.10
    File Type: PS - MPEG2
    Encoding: MPEG 2
    Video stream Id: xE0
    Encoding Dimensions: 544 x 480
    Display Size: 544 x 480
    Aspect Ratio: 4/3
    Frame Rate: 29.97 FPS
    Bit Rate: 15.000 Mbps
    VBV_Buffer: 224 KB
    Profile: Main/Main
    Progressive: Prog or Int
    Chroma: 4:2:0
    Audio Format: Layer 2
    Audio Stream Id: xC0
    Audio Bit Rate: 160 Kbps
    Audio Sampling Rate: 48000 Hz

    What I'm I doing wrong? 10-20 mintues to burn a DVD would be Fine for me.
    Thanks for your help.
    Bad3andy

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    Anole didn't specifically mention it, but NERO can't author 544x480 material without re-encoding, the time consuming part of the process. You will have to change authoring programs or live with the time. Anole uses DVD Labs. I use DVDStyler. Most of the front ends for the freeware DVDAuthor will work. I'n not sure how the upcoming authoring module for VideoReDo will do on that material.

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    Default Bug in output files bitrate after edited with VideoReDo.

    The problem is IMHO a bug in the VideoReDo Program. No matter what Mbps input rate i have, the output rate in VideoReDo is always 15000 Mbps. But 15000 is not DVD compliant, and NERO or any other DVD creation Program needs to recode the MPG file to a compliant bitrate.

    You can fix this, according and thanks to a VideoReDo technician, when saving the file. ther are options, to set the bitrate to a certain number, like 6000. It does not work, when you set it to "no change", because VideoRedo changes it always to 15000, no matter what input bitrate the MPEG file has. Maybe, VideoReDo can not handle variable bitrates or not recognize variable bitrates, and therefore sets it to the hightes rate possible which is 15000. I used many files with variable bitrates, all between 2000 to 6000, but the output bitrate in VideoReDo was always 15000. The only fix is, to change the output settings in the "file save" as dialog options to a fixed bitrate of your choice. The swicht setting "no Change" does not work.

    Another fix may be, to use a freeware program, to change the header information for the bitrate. It does not change the stream bitrate, just the information in the header, and that works great. You can use DVD Patcher Version 1.06, for example. So you do not have to wait, for NERO or Uleads Movie Factory, to reencode the whole file, because any DVD Player or software plays it anyway in the give bitrate, no matter what the header information says.

    Give it a try.

    I think that helps most of the users that want to record to DVD after have edited the files with VideoReDo.
    Last edited by gustavlampe; July 14th, 2007 at 11:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustavlampe View Post
    No matter what Mbps input rate i have, the output rate in VideoReDo is always 15000 Mbps.
    After you load a problem file, press Ctrl-L and let us know the info provided. The source of your files will also give clues as to the problem.

    If your source is a digital broadcast or satellite capture then the headers are part of the file and you will have to change the header, which VRD can do, because "no change" will generally return the embedded file header, even if it is wrong. A transport stream will always have a header which is the max allowed by the transmission method. The bitrate listed in the completion box of VRD is the actual bitrate but it is not the file header.

    A SD digital broadcast (704x480) will have a header of 15Mbps but the actual bitrate is usually around 3Mbps, for example. You will have to change it for some authoring programs to work correctly.

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    Default The problem is the bitrate in Mbps. It is not DVD compliant! And nero needs to recode

    This is exactly what i said earliere, tough the post was deleted for unknown reason:

    Video Redo does not handle the VideoBitRate properly. Your output Bitrate is 15.000 which is not DVD compliant and Nero needs to recode the file again to make it DVD compliant.

    The solution to this is: in the output file dialog

    go to settings

    and set the output bitrate parameter to a number lower than 10, e.g. 3.5 Mbps. You will see, that nere does not recode and burns in a fraction of the time earlier used.

    Gustavlampe
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad3andy View Post
    This is the info I get when I play the vob file before I run Nero(Cntrl +L). It takes any where from 2 - 3 hours to burn a 2 hour DVD. I Converted the TS File from My Coolsat Harddrive with VideoReDo to VOB Files and then save it to my computer harddrive then I Ran Nero to Make the DVD with this file.

    File Name: C:\MOVIE FILES\VOB\Volver (Subtitled).vob
    File Size: 2009483268 ( 1.87 GB )
    Program Duration: 01:58:16.10
    File Type: PS - MPEG2
    Encoding: MPEG 2
    Video stream Id: xE0
    Encoding Dimensions: 544 x 480
    Display Size: 544 x 480
    Aspect Ratio: 4/3
    Frame Rate: 29.97 FPS
    Bit Rate: 15.000 Mbps
    VBV_Buffer: 224 KB
    Profile: Main/Main
    Progressive: Prog or Int
    Chroma: 4:2:0
    Audio Format: Layer 2
    Audio Stream Id: xC0
    Audio Bit Rate: 160 Kbps
    Audio Sampling Rate: 48000 Hz

    What I'm I doing wrong? 10-20 mintues to burn a DVD would be Fine for me.
    Thanks for your help.
    Bad3andy

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    Talking Problems seems to be fixed with new version:

    i tried to redo it but VideoReDo works fine now with no problems.

    Thanks for fixing the problem.

    Input and output bitrate are now the same.

    Thanks again.

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    gustavlampe

    The guys at VideoReDo are always working on the product, and killing bugs that they find.
    I wonder which version you found the problem with (possibly a beta version?), and which version you are now using that has been fixed?

    And I'm very happy to hear it's no longer a problem!
    I don't need that agony either.
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