After clicking save stops rendering after 5 seconds of video

msantell

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5 seconds then shuts itself down. Is there an easy fix for this? the file is x265 10 bit 3840 over 1920 MKV. Am using the beta version released on May 5 but it happened with the previous version as well. thanks
 
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jmc

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I've found VRD to be iffy on high res video and I'm not sure it supports 10 bit yet.

What are the source file specs and destination file specs?
 

msantell

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I've found VRD to be iffy on high res video and I'm not sure it supports 10 bit yet.

What are the source file specs and destination file specs?
it's only doing it on the one file I downloaded others have worked. It does handle 10 bit tho I get a prompt saying 10 bit not yet completely supported and output will be 8 bit. It has rendered other 10-bit files completely and successfully, no problem. I don't want to get into specs and all that, was just hoping someone had dealt with this before.

adding more information, did a quickstream fix on the file. It duplicated the whole file no problem, but then try to edit the new file back to the 5-second problem.
 
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msantell

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so I figured out a solution. As often with the software it doesn't like the audio. So in the current 6 beta version after selecting the destination for the output file

click profile options in the window

change audio encoding type from automatic to AAC

take the check mark out of allow multiple streams

click OK to get out of the window

click save and it will generate all of the edit, not just the first 5 seconds

don't know if this will work with any or every file but it solves the problem I have with this one

good luck to us all!
 

Dan203

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Try this again but leave the audio as automatic and just uncheck allow multiple streams. I bet that works. I'm betting you have a secondary stream that just suddenly ends and that's what's tripping it up. This can happen occasionally if the previous program had multiple streams but the recorded program does not. You catch just enough of the previous program to trip up VRD and make it think that the whole recording should have multiple streams.
 

msantell

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a new complication is that it doesn't work at exactly the points I want to make the cuts. If I try to make the cuts at exact points it shuts itself completely down resulting in zero output. If I let the pointer jump back a few seconds from where I want to start a scene and also jump back a few seconds from where I want to end the scene, then it will render the whole edit (then I have to go further past the end of the scene to keep what I want). This also happens if I create a new file with quickstream fix. I'm wondering if that's because there are already chapter marks in the original file, and if so is there a way to eliminate them? There seems to be something in there at five or more second intervals that's thwarting things. BTW now that I've figured out this is the problem, I can just save a file without having to hassle with the audio in profile options,
 
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Dan203

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If you enable the frame type display in thumbnails are these jumped to frame I or IDR frames?
 

msantell

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don't know how to do that but when I turn on "display on screen information" it shows IDR in small green letters in the upper left hand corner of the video viewscreen. When I right click on the thumbnails it shows "single frame" checked. When I open "set thumbnail parameters" it gives me the window shown below in the copy paste. The only defaults I've changed are to enable one click and turn off that horrible completion noise. I've tried editing this particular file both with sound drivers and with edit without audio but that doesn't seem to matter either way

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Dan203

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In that dialog you posted the option that says Frame Type Display is what you want. The drop down just controls where it's displayed. (i.e. top, left, bottom, right, center) But that onscreen info thing does the same thing.

So when you cut at an IDR frame VRD doesn’t have to recode any frames, so this is the cleanest form of editing. How far away from your cut points are these IDR frames? Under the standard editing engine we jump back 5 seconds looking for an IDR and recode from there to make the cleanest cut. Are these less than 5 seconds apart?
 

msantell

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seems to be at least 5 seconds or more not less but if that's the cleanest form of coding and avoiding recoding I would actually prefer it. All these clips would end up in powerdirector or corel videostudio anyway where I can chop off the extraneous material. So as far as I'm concerned problem solved thanks very much for your help
 

Dan203

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Yes cutting on IDRs will produce the absolute cleanest cut if you're going to edit further anyway.
 
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