Convert a DVD to MPEG to play on TIVO

ryanladd

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I have a tivo series-3 HD. I want to convert my DVDs to an MPEG file that will play on my Tivo.
I've ripped my DVDs using DVD Shrink and AnyDVD to ISO and to VOB.
I've mounted the ISO or Opened the VOB using Video Redo.
Then I've saved as MPEG file format. The Tivo refuses to transfer these files and play them.
Has anyone figured out how to make this work?
 

Steve614

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I have a TivoHD and am trying this now.

In DVD Shrink under Edit -> Preferences -> Output Files, unselect the box for splitting the VOBs into 1GB chunks.

Once you have the output file, simply change the file extention from .vob to .mpg and put it in your My Tivo Recordings folder.

More info here.


Edit: Dang, transfer stopped. Something about file size being larger than expected.
Guess I need to read more about this myself.:confused:
More discussion here.
 
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ryanladd

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DVD to MPEG using DVD Shrink

Yes, I read that somewhere else and tried it last night and to my surprise, it worked.

I still want to know if Video Redo has an option to create an MPEG file that WILL play on the Tivo. I'm dissapointed that the MPEGs I create with Redo won't play on my Tivo Series 3 HD.
 

laserfan

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I'm dissapointed that the MPEGs I create with Redo won't play on my Tivo Series 3 HD.
I didn't read that whole thread (link) but have you tried simply Save As .mpg w/VRD and then clicking "Output empty NAV packets" off the Options button in the Save As dialog?

This creates a VOB-like mpg file. Please give this a try & report back (I too have an S3 but haven't tried what you are attempting).
 

ryanladd

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Saving as .mpg with "Ouput empty NAV packets" checked.

I didn't read that whole thread (link) but have you tried simply Save As .mpg w/VRD and then clicking "Output empty NAV packets" off the Options button in the Save As dialog?

This creates a VOB-like mpg file. Please give this a try & report back (I too have an S3 but haven't tried what you are attempting).
I'm unsure of the "w/VRD", but I saved as an .mpg and changed the packet option mentioned above. This DID work.

Problem now is that both of these mpg movies I have created will start to transfer and play, but about 15 minutes into the transfer, they fail. The transfer dies for some reason. I've made 10 different attempts today with the same results.

Any ideas here???

Getting real close...
 

laserfan

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...I saved as an .mpg and changed the packet option mentioned above. This DID work....about 15 minutes into the transfer, they fail...
How can you say it worked, if you have never been able to get them transferred in their entirety? :confused:

Did you attempt any transfers where you just walked away i.e. didn't start playing them before completion?
 

ryanladd

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Problem resolved...

How can you say it worked, if you have never been able to get them transferred in their entirety? :confused:

Did you attempt any transfers where you just walked away i.e. didn't start playing them before completion?
Good point. It worked really meant that the transfer started and I could watch the video until the transfer died.
Now, what I read in the forum from the link posted earlier in this thread is that my problems are really with Vista and the new version 2.6 that was recently released. I've heard some people having luck by going to to version 2.5, but I decided to try something I read up on. I installed pyTivo. This product allowed me to transfer my entire .mpg to my Tivo Series 3 HD and play it without issue. Installation is not completely straighforward, but it does work and it works well.

So, in conclusion, if you set up is like mine, PC running Tivo Desktop 2.6 with Vista Ultimate and a Series 3 HD Tivo, you can convert your movies to .mpg by either using the DVD Shrink method mentioned earlier or using the Video Redo method mentioned earlier. They both appear to work equally well in my testing thus far. Then to transfer, you'll need to install pyTivo on your Vista machine. The link is here: http://pytivo.armooo.net/wiki/WindowsInstall
 

laserfan

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Glad it works! Actually I have a different setup completely than yours. I bypass TivoDesktop altogether by using instead TivoPlayList and TivoDecode (with XP) to extract/transfer videos from my S3. Now that I think of it, I don't even know that TPL allows me to transfer them back!

But I'm glad to know it's possible, in case I want to use my Tivo as a player (I already have another media player I use instead). Thanks for posting-back.
 

ryanladd

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Converting movies to MPG to play on your Tivo

Okay. I tried a couple of different movies the other day. One worked perfect, The_Wild. Another one I can't get to transfer to my Tivo, The Darjeeling Limited.
Going to try another route today and do some extensive testing.
I'm converting 5 movies to mpg using the DVD-Shrink method and 5 movies using the Video-Redo method. I'll then try transfering all of the movies to my Tivo using Tivo Desktop 2.6 and PyTivo.
I'll post the results here within the next couple of days.
 

ryanladd

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Playing DVDs on your Tivo

Have you tried converting the VOB files to mpeg using a program called VOB2MPG?

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/VOB2MPG
I have not tried this with the Tivo yet, but I just read a little about it and I like the command line options it has.

Now, here are the first results of my tests. I converted the following six movies to mpg using 2 different methods.
CatWoman
Chaos
Peter Pan (Old Disney Movie)
Cellular
Open Season 2
Over the Hedge

My entire movie library is already ripped to ISO's. I did this using AnyDVD and DVDShrink, so my starting point are those ISO's. I then used the following two methods to convert those ISO's to mpg:

1.) Mount the ISO using Daemon Tools, Open the Movie using VideoRedo, save as an MPG with "Output empty NAV packets" checked in options.

2.) Open the ISO using DVD Shrink, uncheck the preference to split the VOB files, select a single video stream, select a single Audio stream (I used the 5.1 track). At this point you should only have 2 things checked, a video and an audio track. No subtitles or other content. The I chose backup to file. You'll get one large VOB and a few other small files. Delete the small files and rename the VOB with movie name and an mpg extension.

I have transfered and played sections of 5 of the 12 total conversions so far. All 5 appeared to play perfectly fine without issue. Fast forward, rewind, skip, all worked. I finish testing over the next couple of days and report back to this forum.

Between the two, I found the DVDShrink option to work nearly twice as fast as the VideoRedo option. I also only had to use DVDShrink instead of two different programs, one to mount the ISO and one to open the files. If you were coming straight from DVD though, you wouldn't have to mount the ISO.

For those wondering, each ISO took about 3 to 7 minutes to convert to an mpg. Maybe 5 to 12 minutes with VideoRedo.

1 thing I did find odd or interesting is that if I opened the mpg files in media player on my pc, they showed drastically different lengths. As an example, Peter Pan with Video Redo showed 32 minutes in media player and an hour and 18 minutes from Shrink. This occured with all of the movies. Once the transfer was completed to the Tivo though, both methods would show the same length and it was correct. Anyone know what causes this?
 

ryanladd

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Test results

For those of you who care and might be checking back, I have not completed testing completely. Sorry.

I did do some more testing last night though and found that the mpg files created with VideoRedo seem to work 100% of the time. I say "Seem to work" as I have not been able to fully watch all 6 movies that were converted.
The files I converted by merely renaming a large vob file only worked about 50% of the time for me. Tivo seems to think these files are a different size than they actually are and the transfer fails to occur to the Tivo.

Keep in mind that I transfered all of these files using pyTivo. I love this thing. Much better than Tivo Desktop for getting to media on your PC's.

Stay tuned for further test results.
 
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