New experimental thumbnail feature in beta 818a

Danr

Danr

Administrator
In beta build 819a, we introduced a new experimental thumbnail feature which should make navigating to the perfect cut point a little bit easier especially when ad-detective doesn't detect good cut points.

In prior versions, when you clicked on a thumbnail that thumbnail became the selected frame i.e. moved to be the center frame. Starting in build 819a, when you click on a thumbnail and simultaneously hold down the shift key, a sub-menu appears so that you can move the selected frame to be the left-most or right-most thumbnail and at the same time reduce the thumbnail interval so adjacent frame appears on the opposite end of the thumbnail strip. This behavior changed from build 818 which used shift+ and ctrl+ to perform similar functions.


The following diagram may help:



If you do try this feature, let us know what you think and please offer any suggestions on how it might be more useful.

FYI, In case you weren't aware, right clicking on the thumbnail strip bring up a pop-up menu that lets you choose the thumbnail interval.
 

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Danr

Danr

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what happens? I should work on all frames except the center frame, so don't do the control/shift+click on that frame.
 
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tobyW

Member
Regardless of which frame I ctrl-click or shift-click or plain click, that frame still becomes the centre frame, selected. Same as it always used to be before Beta 818a.
 
Danr

Danr

Administrator
Did some more testing here and am getting some inconsistent results. Will try and get it fixed for build 819.
 
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Danr

Danr

Administrator
Give 819a a try, it should be fixed and now works just with the shift and a popup menu to select whether you want to move to the left or right.
 
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tobyW

Member
Hi DanR, Scratching my head here: I must be doing something differently to you. I find in 819a the sub menu does pop up, but all three options simply select and centralise the clicked frame, as if I hadn't used Shift.

Sadly...
I see that you've Boasted
819 has been "Poasted".
Not yet to be Toasted,
For now it is Roasted!
:)
TobyW
 
Danr

Danr

Administrator
Which frame are you selecting and clicking on? For me it works on any frame but the center frame.
 
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tobyW

Member
It was on Single Frame.

(edit) ...but changing the interval setting doesn't seem to help.
 
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Danr

Danr

Administrator
That's the problem, the expand doesn't make sense when you're running in single frame. Here's how I use this feature:

1. Set the thumbnail interval to 30 seconds.
2. Position near the start / end of a advertisement.
3. Shift+Click on the first visible frame after the advert and select "right". The adjacent frame to the left of the selected frame will be 30 secs earlier and part of the advert.
4. After the expansion, the thumbnail strip will be filled with frames from the previous adjacent frame to the first visible frame of the show.
5. Repeat again, again shift-clicking on the first visible frame of the show and expanding the thumbnail.

I think we could make a change so that if you're already in single frame mode we could move the selected frame to the left or right, as selected and skip the expansion since there's nothing to expand.

Hope this makes things a little clearer.
 
kebulek

kebulek

New member
Oh, I use always single frame view. When you set it to 30s or more, I do not understand, how you can cut something precisely, when you do not see all frames. :unsure: So this function is obviously not for me.

Maybe you should disable this function, when "single frame view" is selected.
 
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tobyW

Member
I would only use this in the single frame mode, and then only if left/right was controlled by shift/ctrl rather than a menu.
Even then I'm not sure whether or how often I would actually use it.
 
Danr

Danr

Administrator
tobyW said:
I would only use this in the single frame mode, and then only if left/right was controlled by shift/ctrl rather than a menu.
Even then I'm not sure whether or how often I would actually use it.
Click to expand...
That's the whole point of this feature. You set the thumbnail interval to a large value (10 to 60 seconds), and then use the shift+click feature a few times to quickly narrow the thumbnails down to a single frame.
 
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Otter

Member
I also have only used "single frame" and precision cuts. Can't see a point to this experiment and the time devoted to it.
Would rather see the programing effort devoted to fixing the audio timeline "disappearing" when audio is shifted glitch, which I do use.
 
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