Retain captions or save to SRT file

atc98092

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I have been using VRD for several years now, specifically to remove commercials from WTV files. However, since Microsoft terminated support for WMC in Windows 10, I have recently switched to J River Media Center as my OTA recording method. Now instead of WTV files I have TS files. Still works just as well for editing, but I would really like to retain the EIA-608 captions as broadcast. It doesn't work to use CCExtractor, because it will be timed on the original file, not the edited version. I was using MCEBuddy to convert the videos to H.264 and name the TV episodes correctly for my DLNA server, but since J River names both the TV episodes AND movies accurately, I no longer need MCEBuddy. I don't need H.264 any longer since Roku added MPEG-2 support to their newer players.

So, is there any method in VRD to retain the captions and keep them in sync with the edited video? I don't really care if they're embedded in the finished file, exported to SRT, or even burned into the video. I'd just like to retain them if at all possible. The only reference I can find about captions is in relation to WTV/DVR-MS Output. If I could even use CCExtractor on the original file, and somehow merge it with the video within VRD so that cuts made to the video were reflected in the SRT file. That last one is probably asking way too much. :p
 

Danr

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Don't understand your request. When you edit and save the video, the 608 / 708 captions are retained in the output file.
 

Dan203

Senior Developer
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Captions do depend on the output format though. What output format are you using? If you keep TS like the source it should pass through the captions just fine.
 

atc98092

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Yeah, as soon as I posted that question, I tried editing another file, and wouldn't you know it, the captions were still there. I could have sworn they were missing the first time I tried it with a JRiver recording. And I did save it to TS. While I'd prefer to change them to H.264 to save space, if I have to keep them MPEG-2 and the TS container, I can live with that. I am assuming that if I save to MKV and convert to H.264 the 608/708 captions would be lost. When I used MCEBuddy to convert them to H.264 in the background the captions were lost.
 

Dan203

Senior Developer
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I think the only format that will lose captions is MKV. As they don't support 608/708 captions. They only support SRT or DVD subtitles and we don't have the ability to convert.
 

Dan203

Senior Developer
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If the 608/708 captions are embedded in the video stream, MKV will retain them.
I'm not sure if all players will play them though. I think a lot of players just assume that MKV has SRT or DVDSub streams and ignore the 608/708 captions in the video stream. But it's been a while since I did any testing on this, so things may have progressed.
 
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