Ulead DVD Menu Templates

slkx

New member
Thanks for doing that Pat -- can't wait. :)

I downloaded all three, whacked them in the Templates/General folder of MF 3 but when I loaded up the program it wasn't showing them up in the list of templates.
So I tried again using MF 2.5 -- same result.

I even tried renaming one of your ufos with the name of an existing one, but it didn't show it up even then.

Any ideas?
 

Lester Burnham

New member
phd said:
I have created a few custom DVD menu templates for Ulead DVD Movie Factory that I use for myself.
They are available at the FTP for your enjoyment.
ftp://upload:upload@videoredo.net/DVD Movie Factory Templates/
They work well for me and should be usable in DVD Movie Factory versions 1, 2, and 3 as well as DVD Workshop.

Let me know what you think. If you like them (or not.)

Pat
Is there any chance you can quote URLs of the actual files on the ftp server - I seem to have access issues with browser ftp folders (probably firewall related) but I can download linked files just fine.
 

phd

Super Moderator
slkx:

I tried downloading from the FTP and installing into the General folder on a second machine running Win98. I didn't have a problem with them listing or loading in DMF3.

For DMF2 try putting them into the My Favorites folder in the template directory.

I have also tried something and made a very subtle change which hopefully will make them more compliant in DMF3 and DVDWS2 for you. There are 3 additional files at the FTP which have "DMF3" added to their name. Try them and see if they work better for you.

Once again, I placed them in the Template/General folder of DMF3 and it worked on a second machine. For DMF2 I placed them in the Template/My Favorites folder.

Let me know how it works.


Lester:

The URLs are as follows:
ftp://upload:upload@videoredo.net/DVD Movie Factory Templates/Farscape.ufo
ftp://upload:upload@videoredo.net/DVD Movie Factory Templates/Stargate Atlantis.ufo
ftp://upload:upload@videoredo.net/DVD Movie Factory Templates/Stargate SG1.ufo

ftp://upload:upload@videoredo.net/DVD Movie Factory Templates/Farscape DMF3.ufo
ftp://upload:upload@videoredo.net/DVD Movie Factory Templates/Stargate Atlantis DMF3.ufo
ftp://upload:upload@videoredo.net/DVD Movie Factory Templates/Stargate SG1 DMF3.ufo
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
Let me know if you need them moved from our FTP site to our HTTP site. I'd be glad to do that.
 

Lester Burnham

New member
DanR said:
Let me know if you need them moved from our FTP site to our HTTP site. I'd be glad to do that.
Thanks - from my perspective, whichever is easiest for you - I just seem to have an issue at work with browsing folders via ftp - I can download the links that Pat provided.

phd said:
Many thanks - I can download these fine.
 

slkx

New member
Success!
Whatever you did the second time, Pat, those ones with MF3 on them worked for me.
I don't suppose you take requests do you? :D I really really like the Atlantis one, but would love a template without the actual words in the middle saying "Stargate Atlantis".... I think I could use that for quite a few shows actually -- just love the dark brooding look of it!
If you don't take requests, also cool! I think you've done a nice job. :)
-- Sheryl
 

phd

Super Moderator
Thanks.

I'll let you in on a little secret. They are all roughly the same!

The initial work is already done by me with the moving of the template buttons and text boxes for DMF. The major difference is the background image which you can change in DMF.

Here's the process:
1 Save your favorite frame out of an MPEG with VRD
2 Modify the picture with your favorit image editing software. Optimal picture size for DMF in PAL and NTSC is 768 X 576. I save them as JPG for smaller size but you could also save in BMP.
3 Start DMF.
4 Add your MPEGs as usual.
5 You get to the page where you can select the menu template, select any that you like. (Hopefully mine!)
6 At the bottom left is a button to select background image. Click that and select the image you want to use.
7 The new image will be placed as your new background.

If it doesn't fit exactly the way you want, open the picture again in your image editor and modify it slightly so it fits around the buttons.

I created this one because typically I have 6-7 chapter points that I like to create for a 1 hour episode, so I use this as the default. I personally like these screen shots so it creates a more "professional looking" title and I don't have to type the name every time.

I record at 1/2D1 so the original source picture is 352X480and not as high quality as is possible.

You also have more limited options for chapter point layout, text, frames and buttons if you select the customize on the lower right of that screen and can save them as templates within DMF.

I do take requests also. If you have an interesting screen shot or picture, upload it and I'll see what I can do. Also, I can potentially modify the maximum number of buttons available.
 

Lester Burnham

New member
slkx said:
Success!
Whatever you did the second time, Pat, those ones with MF3 on them worked for me.
I don't suppose you take requests do you? :D I really really like the Atlantis one, but would love a template without the actual words in the middle saying "Stargate Atlantis".... I think I could use that for quite a few shows actually -- just love the dark brooding look of it!
If you don't take requests, also cool! I think you've done a nice job. :)
-- Sheryl
Speaking of which, I'm not that unhappy with the default templates in MF2 that I use.

I would like the ability to move buttons around, or use different styles, but I just tend to use the default template to be honest.

I tend to use that, then I use a background image that goes with whatever I'm burning (tends to be the same for all menus in multi title burns) and usually some audio that similarly goes with all menus.

The one thing I don't use is text - yet it's annoying that the default templates add dummy text that I have to clear from every menu, title and chapter.

Is there any easy way of getting rid of this, yet still sticking with the default template (more or less)?

Also, I take it that motion menus and animated clips for titles / chapters aren't possible with MF2? I have nerovision, too, and I like the better menu flexibility in nerovision, and the ability to use full animation (backgrounds, titles and chapters), just find the layout can be poorer, and the buttons don't all function properly with standalone players. Plus the chapter stuff in nerovision is poor - either automatic scene detection which seems to be unbelievably slow - I've never waited for this to finish, and I've never seen it get above low numbers in progress (less than 5%) - or manual chapters.

Whereas MF2 (like some of the GUI front ends to dvdauthor) allow you to do auto time based chapters.

Speaking of which I did find the free GUI for DVD author excellent had great chapter support, and great customisation, the only issue being that it keeps falling over on me when it's doing the batch run stuff (ie when it's actually doing all the work).

Any info on whether it's easy to remove the sample text, permanently, but still use the default template in MF2?
 

phd

Super Moderator
Yes it is.

Basically, if you do not touch the default text, it will not appear in the finished DVD. No need to clear it out every time. Try it.

Animated menus are not possible in DMF2, they are a feature in DMF 3. If you do decide to demo DMF, be aware of 2 things:
1 The demo can't be patched.
2 No AC3 support.

There are also 2 versions of the full DMF3, standard and Disk Creator. Disk Creator has AC3 support, standard does not.

Check out the customize button in DMF2 for other other standard template layouts, you may find one you like.

Ulead also sells a product called Photo Impact which can edit the menus. It is fairly complex with layers and objects, etc. like Photoshop. It can also load, edit and save DMF template files with the UFO extention (Ulead File for Objects.) Before I upgraded to PI10 I had PI7 which is still available for deep discounts. Picked up mine brand new and shrink wrapped for $15. It is rather complex but will allow you to edit templates directly. Be careful though, very easy to mess them up!

Pat
 

Lester Burnham

New member
phd said:
Yes it is.

Basically, if you do not touch the default text, it will not appear in the finished DVD. No need to clear it out every time. Try it.
Thanks for that, I'll give that a go - it will save me time.

What happens if I save the project, will it always show the default text when I open it, or once I've produced something, and reopen it will it just be blank.

phd said:
Animated menus are not possible in DMF2, they are a feature in DMF 3. If you do decide to demo DMF, be aware of 2 things:
1 The demo can't be patched.
2 No AC3 support.
I don't think I'll bother demo-ing. I'd happily use motion menus if they were there, but I'm reasonably happy with MF2, I like the ease of creating chapters, and a custom background with the audio I like is good enough for me.

I'm more concerned with authoring fairly quickly, really, rather than some polished DVD menu. A good compromise to me is a custom background with audio.

When I have more time, and (hopefully) as later releases happen, I'll do more with the GUI_for_dvdauthor - because that was pretty good - 'cept it wouldn't fully author for me - kept either getting stuck in a loop, or falling over ;-)

AC3 would be good for anything I'm burning that's close to the limit - but would I need to re-encode (given captures are done with mpeg audio) or would it be just re-encoding the audio, and remuxing.

I know I can do it by demuxing and using besweet (and the simple GUI front ends!), but I'm not truly sure of what the best options are with bitrates, there - and it adds quite a lot of time to the process - having to demux, convert, remux then author.

It would be different if I had AC3 source, or was extracting from DVDs with AC3 source, but all I really do is capture from TV (digital satellite) to mpeg, edit, then author.

phd said:
There are also 2 versions of the full DMF3, standard and Disk Creator. Disk Creator has AC3 support, standard does not.

Check out the customize button in DMF2 for other other standard template layouts, you may find one you like.
I played around with it, but couldn't quite get it to take for the session I was in - it didn't seem to apply to the menus I already had?

As a product I find it reasonably good, I don't really have any high-end needs, animation would be nice, but sometimes simple is good, too.

The only thing I think I'd really want to do is play around with the types of buttons it puts on for titles and chapters - sometimes for style, sometimes for colour - probably so that they fit well with the background I use for the disk. And the placement of the title and chapter buttons - again to fit in with the background I'm using.
 

Peter

New member
For those of you wishing to modify existing templates, you caould download Ulead's trial ver. of PhotoImpact.

It will allow you to modify the .UFO files, but I had some problems - well, MF had problems! It will crash when using modded files, but if they are saved as RLE files, that might prevent it crashing.

I played with it, but don't remember what I did to get it to work properly.

It may be that you can modify certain parts of a template (ie. the frames) and then change the frames of an existing template to the new ones, but only within MF.

Sorry that I can't be much help, but I do have a template with larger frames and my own backround working now! So, be warned, you need to experiment.
 

phd

Super Moderator
Hi Peter,

Don't know about RLE, but PhotoImpact took in both BMP and JPG as the background images without a problem. In fact using the JPG resulted in a smaller file size for the finished UFO. You might have changed the names in some manner and that's why it didn't work.

Also did you have the background image at 768X576 resolution? That is the standard Ulead uses for all its templates, both NTSC and PAL. Also, if you tried a JPEG and had an unacceptable compression level, that might have affected it as well. If BMP, there are apparently different standards that some programs can't understand. I had resized the images within PI, so that may be why I didn't have a problem.

A UFO is like the Photoshop format. each layer is an object. The standard template contains many different objects. Each chapter point that you see on the menu is comprised of 4 objects: Text , frame, center and a 4th object that I guess is the link to the frame of the VOB. If you disturb the naming conventions, it will not work. That is why I created 2 sets of templates for DMF2 and DMF3. There are different names for the template thumbnail within the UFO.

Although the same template worked for me with DMF 2 & 3, it didn't work for everyone. That's why I created the second set with the "proper" naming convention. Also, based upon someone I helped over at the Ulead forum who had DVD Workshop Express, there are different naming conventions for the Express and full version of DVD Workshop 2. So that's now 4 different standards for templats (so far) within Ulead products.

The easiest way to create a custom template without worrying about correct names is to create a dummy template within DMF containing the correct number of buttons you want. Move and resize all the objects to wherever you desire, then save. Don't bother D/Ling the template Wizard for PI. It doesn't work in the demo versions and only creates the correct names for DVD Workshop 2, the full version, not the Express. That's the problem the other user had.

Pat
 

Duck

New member
Can't download templates

I can't seem to download those templates that everybody likes so much. I get a message (from Star Downloader) saying the file (s) can't be found. It may be the downloader, but I use it a lot and I've never seen that message before. I've tried shutting down everything but the browser (Firefox), even Zone Alarm, but still no luck either from the either the forum link or the ftp site.

Any ideas what I"m doing wrong?
 

phd

Super Moderator
Earlier today I had tried getting on to the forum and couldn't, so there may have been trouble with the server or something. I just tried to download from the FTP and it worked OK. You may want to try again since everything seems to be working OK now.

Pat
 

Duck

New member
Got 'em

Thanks for encouraging me to try again. I switched to a couple of other browsers with no luck but when I shutdown Star Downloader, bing-bang-boom! I got all three. First time the downloader has ever given me a problem, but now I know.
 

phd

Super Moderator
I've posted a couple of new templates I made. They are formatted for both DMF2 and DMF3.

I've shrunk the thumbnails and buttons and moved them to the edge of the TV safe area (for NTSC.) I have 2 different types. One with the TN and navigation buttons at the top and another at the bottom.

The purpose is to maximize the visible area for menu backgrounds. I use the screenshot function in VRD to create menu backgrounds (Ctrl+C) Then, in DMF I import them as the background picture for the template.

Hope you find them useful.

4 choices bottom DMF2.ufo
4 choices top DMF2.ufo
4 choices bottom DMF3.ufo
4 choices top DMF3.ufo
 
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