Video rotating while merging

Ryland

Member
My wife had taken an hour long video on her phone but rotated her phone about 6 minutes in. I used VRD to cut the video into two parts, the first 6 minute portion as one file and the second video as a 2nd file but made sure it was rotated from landscape to portrait. I then tried using the Joiner to join them back together but it keeps rotating the first video 90 degrees even though Rotation is set to None. Ive tried using both Intelligent encoder and full Encode and both end up with the same result. Im using VRD 6.63.7.836.
 

cp2

Active member
Have you tried force recoding just the part you want to rotate before you do the join? The join function is not always co-operative in handling different specs.
 

Ryland

Member
I hadnt tried to force recode the rotated part I had only intelligent recoded it back to mp4 which was hat it started as.
 

cp2

Active member
I would guess that with intelligent recoding it is content to just set the rotate flag, whereas forced encoding would do more than that. Joining could well struggle to handle to conflicting flags. (I tried to join two separate parts but change from H264 to H265, and change the aspect ratio on both parts. It joined both parts, converted to H265 but overlooked the aspect ratio bit. I joined them in H264 and then did a separate step to H265 and changed aspect ratio).
 

Ryland

Member
I just sent both of the parts through a full encode and verified that the result was still in the expected orientation then joined them using Intelligent encoder which rotated the first video back to landscape again with the 2nd part being portrait. I then tried encoding both files using force reencode and that also ended up with the first video being rotated and the second one not.

Im completely stumped as to how to get it so both videos are in portait
 

cp2

Active member
Yes, that would stump me too. It would appear that even in forced encode mode that the video is not actually rotated since the memory of its original orientation remains and is acted upon.
At this stage I would suggest trying Handbrake to flip and maybe join the files as a quick search revealed that it can maybe do it.
 

cp2

Active member
I ended up using ffmpeg to merge the two files.
This is the new world we are going to have to live in for as long as we can. No more bug fixes to VRD, just a community like this forum that can advise on workarounds or alternatives. (Sometimes!).
I have only used ffmpeg because it is runs within in VRD. I will have to consider the separate application.
 

glenpinn

Member
Following on from my own new Thread in the following link.


I have tried every possible way to get my Portrait phone video to rotate to the correct landscape orientation and i cant seem to do it, unless i start using some other editing tool, which i really dont want o do.

I am shocked at the lack of support here in VRD, and i still have no idea why.

I absolutely hate people who are recording their phone videos in Portrait mode, these mutha fucking morons should not be allowed to own a phone, because taking photos and recording video in portrait mode is criminal.

I can understand it if out widescreen tv's were operated in Portrait mode, but they are not.
 

glenpinn

Member
i would recommend some sophisticated video editing tool that really easy to use and fully automated by ai. One of AI video editing tool that i would love to recommend is eklipse.gg , it is really helpful for me, especially to auto edit my gaming clips into shareable social media format like tiktok and instagram.
I dont think that is going to do what i needed.
 

Dan203

Ex-Senior Developer
Save to TS, not MP4. To minimize processing we used the rotation flag in MP4 rather than actually rotating the video. Only MP4, and maybe MKV, support that flag so all other formats are physically rotated. So saving to TS with the rotation settings you want should produce the video you want. If you need MP4 or MKV you can convert to that using QSF after the file is rotated correctly.
 

Celluloid

New member
Just an FYI regarding FFmpeg on Windows PCs:
If you need to resort to using FFmpeg in its native form, here is an excellent GUI front end that allows saving various command line configurations, etc.

SourceForge: FFmpeg Batch AV Converter

I have no affiliation with the software other than being a very satisfied user.
 
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